Thursday, September 11, 2008

Shadows

Deep in the shadows of hell, you hear the screams and cries of the people down there. Through all the levels people that have killed, cheated on their spouse and even those unbaptized.
They see what they have done and hope one day they can live the peaceful life of others in heaven with God. Will they ever be able to arrive in the beautiful skies?

11 comments:

booradley said...

i think this is beautiful and i also find it interesting that it implies people in hell spend their lives regretting what they have done. i guess this isn't an uncommon concept but i have always thought of the souls in hell as feeling similar to satan. they realize god's power, but they still fight it.

i can understand that after a lifetime of torture that they would want to be in heaven but i believe that it is the mindset against god and all that he/she stands for that puts one in hell in the first place. torture can't make someone holy.

but again, this is well said.

The River Flows Past said...

I never thought about it like that. That those down in Hell remain because they curse god as Satan did.
Do they curse out of pain from torture or are they tourtured for their curses?
Also why are they tourtured to what end?

Brittni Nicole Kinney said...

Aren't they tortured according to their sins? Like the opportunists have their banner and the wasps and such. Then there's the story of that couple that are destined to lay parallel for eternity but never touch.

I think, and correct me if I am wrong, but the way this works is...you have you entire life to repent (I know, in Catholicism you also have Purgatory but all that kind of confuses me) so it's a bit pointless to say "Oh, now that I've realized that what I did was wrong and have seen the consequences of my actions, I wish to go back and re-do it. I believe you now God, sorry I missed all this when I was back on earth".

People don't get judged on judgement day so that they can get a taste of hell, feel bad, and then get whisked off to Heaven when they've had enough.

So, no. I think once you're in Hell, you're in Hell for eternity. And it's not that I don't have sympathy for these people, but I just have to be realistic about the facts: it was their own personal choices that put them in hell. No one manipulated them into being down there. So, when faced with the choice to be for God or against them...they chose against.

Constant Questions said...

I don't think that the souls in hell feel contempt for God necessarily. I mean, for example, when the murderers committed their murder they weren't thinking, "This will really make God mad, he he he." I think that the experience in hell is feeling God's disappointment constantly. They know that what they did was wrong and have to endure the guilt and regret for all of eternity. I would think that they would be more angry with themselves for committing the sin in the first place than at God for punishing them for thier own mistake.

booradley said...

good point constant questions.

i think those in hell are less in contempt of god and more in contempt for what he stands for. i think anyone who commits a sin is directly opposing the ideals that he upholds.

Constant Questions said...

The point that I'm really trying to get across here is shame. The souls in hell are ashamed of their mistakes and hate themselves for making them in the first place. The don't actually hate God or His principles.

The River Flows Past said...

Hell, for me seems to make no sense. Punishment is a device to remove influences from society and people. In hell the tortured are permanantly removed yet still suffer. Why do they suffer. However, considering constant questions post I think that hell may be more of a state produced by the souls themselfs. They punish them selves after having seen the true grace and power that awaits on the other side.

booradley said...

in response to constant questions, i think that there are people in hell that feel shame. i think there are people who feel sorry for what they've done to end up there...but i think there are just as many people who feel no shame at all. people who feel that what they did was right or justified.

maybe it's a bit morbid to think of my fellow human beings in such a way but i can't assume the tortures of hell are enough to turn the evil good. if anything, it might put some even further into contempt.

Constant Questions said...

The way I see it is that when people are on earth they only see what is right in front of them. So, a sin in a living person's perspective could seem justified. However, when they die and their soul sees the entire picture, they realize that they were in fact wrong and then the shame sets in. This is obviously only speculation since I have never died.

booradley said...

well, i suppose i am pushing it now but "sin" as it is presented in the biblical and formal sense may be bad, but not everyone feels that way. something that may be a sin to you may not be to someone else. once you step outside of organized religion and a preset system of what is right and what is wrong, sin can become a rather grey area.

i guess i just don't have that kind of blind faith that everyone has the ability to regret poor choices. i do believe there are people who will die, go to hell, and never once look for forgiveness.

Constant Questions said...

I agree that sin can be a very grey area even within organized religion because there are so many different beliefs. It just seems to me that in order for an act to be a sin you must know on some level that it is wrong. Sometimes people reason themselves into committing the sin anyway. But they still know that because they had to use reason, something wasn't quite right. I find it hard to classify something as a sin if the person had no idea whatsoever that they had donme anything wrong.